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Indifference kills more marriages than affairs do

Most marriages don't end with a scandal — they end with an "I'm fine" repeated for years. Ricardo Martins on what John Gottman's research reveals and what to do about it today.

Indifference kills more marriages than affairs do
In shortAn affair is the visible cause; indifference is the real cause of most separations. John Gottman's research found that couples who stayed married responded to their partner's bids for connection 86% of the time; couples who divorced, 33%. This article shows how to spot indifference in your marriage and three exercises to reverse it.

When a marriage ends because of an affair, everyone understands. There’s a villain, a victim, a story to tell. But let me tell you what I see behind the scenes after years of listening to couples: in most cases, the affair was the death certificate — not the cause of death. The marriage was already dying of something far quieter: indifference.

How indifference moves in

Nobody wakes up indifferent one morning. It happens in layers:

  • She tells you about her day and you answer “hm” without looking up from your phone.
  • He reaches for you and you turn over, “tired.”
  • One of you makes a joke and the other doesn’t laugh anymore.
  • Conversations turn into logistics: bills, school, groceries, schedules.
  • You stop fighting — not because you solved anything, but because you gave up trying.

That last one fools a lot of people. A couple that doesn’t fight looks healthy. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it’s a couple that already separated emotionally and just hasn’t told the courthouse.

What the science measured

Psychologist John Gottman spent decades observing couples in a lab. In one of his most cited studies, he and his team followed newlyweds and measured something small: how often one spouse responds to the other’s “bids for connection” — a comment, a touch, a “look at this.”

The result, six years later: couples who were still married had turned toward those bids 86% of the time. Couples who divorced, only 33%.

It wasn’t the number of fights. It wasn’t money. It was the response to the small stuff. Every “hm” without looking up is a brick pulled out of the wall. Every “tell me more” is a brick put back.

What the Bible already said

“Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives…” — 1 Peter 3:7 (NIV)

Being considerate — living with understanding, as older translations put it — is the opposite of indifference. It’s paying attention. Song of Songs warns about “the little foxes that ruin the vineyards” (Song of Songs 2:15) — it isn’t lions that bring down a marriage; it’s the small animals nobody takes seriously.

And here’s a hard truth for men, one I say at every Legendários event: a wife doesn’t leave on the day she discovers the affair. She leaves on the inside, months or years earlier, on the day she realizes you stopped looking at her. The affair just makes it official.

An honest diagnosis: 5 questions

Answer alone, without showing your spouse (yet):

  1. When was the last time you asked your spouse a question out of pure curiosity about them, not logistics?
  2. Do you know what’s weighing on their mind this week?
  3. When they start talking, is your first impulse to listen or to finish what you’re doing?
  4. Do you laugh together? When was the last time?
  5. If your spouse disappeared for three days, would you miss the person or the function?

If you got stuck on three or more, indifference is already in the house. Don’t panic — act.

Three exercises for this week

1. The 10-second rule. Every time your spouse speaks to you, put down whatever is in your hands for 10 seconds and look at them. That’s it. It sounds small. It’s the 86%.

2. One non-logistical question a day. “What made you proud today?”, “What really wore you out?”, “What are you afraid of this week?” One a day. No fixing, no advising. Just listen.

3. Pray for your spouse out loud, in front of them, once. Not for the marriage — for them. For their fears, their work, their heart. Indifference doesn’t survive intercession.

The number that keeps me up at night

The CDC counted 672,502 divorces in the United States in 2023 in the reporting states. I don’t believe 672,000 marriages ended over a big scandal. I believe most of them ended from boredom, from exhaustion, from two strangers splitting the same electric bill.

I’ve been that stranger. I was the problem in my marriage — and indifference showed up long before anything worse did. What saved my marriage wasn’t an event; it was Vanessa giving God a chance, and me deciding, every single day, to turn toward her instead of turning away.

You don’t need a miracle this week. You need 10 seconds.

Sources

  1. Gottman, Coan, Carrère & Swanson (1998). Predicting Marital Happiness and Stability from Newlywed Interactions. Journal of Marriage and Family, 60(1) — The Gottman Institute
  2. FastStats — Marriage and Divorce (2023 provisional data) — CDC / National Center for Health Statistics
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Ricardo Martins

Ricardo Martins

Ricardo Martins is an author, pastor and spokesperson for the Legendários men's movement. With his wife, Vanessa Lima, he created The Legendary Couple (O Casal Legendário), reaching millions with content on Christian marriage and restoration. Author of "Quando o amor recomeça" (Citadel, 2026).

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